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 Post subject: Re: Scots dialects
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:07 pm 
I can remember my Dad's mam and how she'd talk when i was wee

"Away ben the scullery son an' fetch yer Da's tea"

"Dinnae let Billy oot intae the gairden, ye ken he'll get oot the gate"

I'm maybe over doing it but she was from midlothian so anyone from edinburgh will be able to tell if they sound right or not.

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saorsa.no.bàs wrote:
Right these next two sentences will end years of wonder for me

. Where do you live?
. Where abouts?



In Angus,
Far dya bide
whar aboot...Furry boots (you set that one up, ya rabbar bampar !)

Another een............ Awa an decht yer doup....... go and clean your arse


Haha i had to know if they were the real deal. I've met people from around Aberdeenshire but they all seem to hold back when around those of us who have been cursed with the best english in scotland.

decht = clean
doup = arse

any idea on the etymology of both?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:09 pm 
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saorsa.no.bàs wrote:
Right these next two sentences will end years of wonder for me

. Where do you live?
. Where abouts?



In Angus,
Far dya bide
whar aboot...Furry boots (you set that one up, ya rabbar bampar !)

Another een............ Awa an decht yer doup....... go and clean your arse


Doup Coo, I love that word and we use it too although sometimes we say dock and I say dicht instead o decht

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:15 pm 
'Goan gie yer face a dichtie' was what my granny from Airdrie used to say.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:21 pm 
Right who's up for helping me out with a little language experiment then. My girlfriend is a speech and language therapist in training and has these special powers where she can listen to spoken word and then write it out in some weird language i don't understand but if i can get people to send me recordings of how they would say [10 sentences] from different areas in Scotland, over the summer she can sit down and listen to them and transcribe the differences. It might end up being pointless but i think it'll be fun.

1. I went to the shops with my mam and sister.
2. He was watching the television last night.
3. It was always cold in the winter.
4. Did you have a good day?
5. How many times a day do you change your clothes?
6. My name is [insert fake name here]
7. It was really wet on Wednesday but today is beautiful.
8. My brother was fighting on Saturday night.
9. She went to school but the teacher sent her home because she is sick.
10. Open the window and let some air in.

It doesn't matter where about you live, just say the sentences as you would everyday.

If you're into it pm me and i'll send my email address.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:39 pm 
An Orcadian Cradle Song
Words: Robert Menzies Fergusson
Tune & arrangement: Brian Cromarty

Ba, ba, lammie noo
Cuddle doon tae mammie;
Trowies canna ta’ thoo
Hushie ba lammie
Me bonnie peerie bird
Sleepin’ in me bosie;
We manna speak a word
Pirrins noo sae cosy
Ba, ba peerie t’ing
Sleep a bonnie nappie;
Thoo’ll sleep an’ I will sing
Makin’ lassack happy
Faither’s fishin’ in the sea
Catchin’ cod wi’ herrin’;
Brinigin’ home his fish tae thee-
Tae me sonsie bairnie
Ba, ba lammie noo
Cuddle doon tae mammie;
Trowies canna tak’ thoo
Hushie ba lammie
Hushie ba lammie
Hushie ba…

Does this resemble Doric at all or is it a lot different?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:45 pm 
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decht = clean

Tend to think of "dicht" ( as I know it) being used for dish washing, or washing your face.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:14 pm 
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when we wir wee we yaised tae hae a dicht when wi hid the cald fir dichtin wir neb wi


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1. I went to the shops with my mam and sister.
Fekk that
2. He was watching the television last night.
Lazy fekker aye watchin the tv
3. It was always cold in the winter.
Wee bit nippit
4. Did you have a good day?
Aye its was braa
5. How many times a day do you change your clothes?
Ya strangy panted hoor ye
6. My name is [insert fake name here]
Boab Myler
7. It was really wet on Wednesday but today is beautiful.
Its aye p!shing
8. My brother was fighting on Saturday night.
The breethers a Fechtie wee fekker
9. She went to school but the teacher sent her home because she is sick.
Awa hame ya peely wallied fekker
10. Open the window and let some air in.
Open the windie ye stinkin bashtart

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:46 pm 
Haha

Cheers Coo, i'll get back to you with the transcript


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:08 pm 
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saorsa.no.bàs wrote:
An Orcadian Cradle Song
Words: Robert Menzies Fergusson
Tune & arrangement: Brian Cromarty

Ba, ba, lammie noo
Cuddle doon tae mammie;
Trowies canna ta’ thoo
Hushie ba lammie
Me bonnie peerie bird
Sleepin’ in me bosie;
We manna speak a word
Pirrins noo sae cosy
Ba, ba peerie t’ing
Sleep a bonnie nappie;
Thoo’ll sleep an’ I will sing
Makin’ lassack happy
Faither’s fishin’ in the sea
Catchin’ cod wi’ herrin’;
Brinigin’ home his fish tae thee-
Tae me sonsie bairnie
Ba, ba lammie noo
Cuddle doon tae mammie;
Trowies canna tak’ thoo
Hushie ba lammie
Hushie ba lammie
Hushie ba…

Does this resemble Doric at all or is it a lot different?



I dinna recognise some of the words ie lassack, trowie, pirrin
Bosie is a word I use, bosie means hug to me.
Sonsie is a southern word to me

I was always told that the Orcadians have a language/ dialect all of their own

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:26 pm 
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6. My name is [insert fake name here]
Boab Myle


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:27 am 
saorsa.no.bàs wrote:
I can remember my Dad's mam and how she'd talk when i was wee

"Away ben the scullery son an' fetch yer Da's tea"

"Dinnae let Billy oot intae the gairden, ye ken he'll get oot the gate"

I'm maybe over doing it but she was from midlothian so anyone from edinburgh will be able to tell if they sound right or not.



Yer no ower daein it that's aboot right. Born an bred in Midlothian. But Maw had a few Doric words an phrases (wioot the accent) as her Granparents were fae Bourtie (Aberdeenshire). She also yaised a few Gleschu words an phrases.

Maist o ma accent/dialect comes fae ma Mither. A may hae a wee Peebleshire inflection. Though some fowk think A'm fae the Borders. (Peebleshire that is no Hawick or Gala). And recently someone though A was fae Lanarkshire or Ayrshire causae the wie A say 'kinna'


Although A aften add ither words A've learnt maist o the above is how a speak


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:49 am 
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I need a translater at times tae understand my mum she comes oot wi some right belters.

hae a skek it yon hing.

have a look at that

skek tho I have spelled it the way I say it is the dutch word for look. we had loads o flemmish weavers in this area at some point.


there are a few doric words here but doric wasnt widely spoken in this bit of Angus. My dad spoke Doric cause he was from Kincardine O Neil.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:36 pm 
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I need a translater at times tae understand my mum she comes oot wi some right belters.

hae a skek it yon hing.

have a look at that

skek tho I have spelled it the way I say it is the dutch word for look. we had loads o flemmish weavers in this area at some point.


there are a few doric words here but doric wasnt widely spoken in this bit of Angus. My dad spoke Doric cause he was from Kincardine O Neil.


http://www.freedict.com/onldict/onldict.php

look - het uiterlijk hebben van, er uitzien
see - ontmoeten, aantreffen
glance - een blik werpen, een blik werpen op

Not very promising, maybe Maes knows.

"Skek" looks to me like a relative of "keek", as in "keekin gless" (mirror), which is related to Gaidhlig "caog", which usually means "wink", "peep" or "look" -

http://www2.smo.uhi.ac.uk/gaidhlig/facl ... tairg=Lorg

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:32 pm 
Cin ah jist say listenin tae 'Rebel Highlander' an 'Montrose' spikkin wan tae the ither at ony given event is a pleasure. It's aboot as pure as ye'll hear....


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:14 pm 
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I was close

Why do you call peterhead the blue toon?


Because of the blue worsted stockings the fishermen used to wear, but also because you can turn blue as it's usually cold there :wink:


Is it not cause its full of huns :lol:


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