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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:05 pm 
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I know that this is supposed to be a positive campaign but it's tempting, isn't it?

Or is it?

Do you never feel the urge to adopt the demeanour of Private Fraser, suck air through your teeth and foresee a particular portent of doom in the event of a "No" victory. It seems to work best on ardent unionists (with whom you have nothing to lose anyway). Project Fear in reverse, I guess.

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 Post subject: Re: Negative campaigning
PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:45 pm 
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:razz: The temptation at times is almost overwhelming, but please resist! A wee smile, a shake of the head, and a positive refutation of the lies usually sees the wee spark of realisation in their eyes. Just planting the seeds of doubt can be all it takes.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 3:27 pm 
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I was in the chippy the other day, and someone was in there blethering on about Iceland (not the shop) and how Salmond had based his economics on it. I actually had to point out to him that the Icelandic economy's doing REALLY WELL just now.

He said, "But look at what happened to it?"

I pointed out that the UK is still in a mess with the 4th largest military budget in the world (why?!), and that the Brit media (nearly wrote merdia there - French!) reported the Icelandic collapse, but has never bothered to mention how it's bounced back... partly because it locked up its worst bankers for white collar crime instead of supporting them.

He looked completely puzzled, as he'd never heard about all this.

Sometimes you've got to tell folk the facts, they only hear half the story...

Like every time that someone bangs on about Shetland independence, I have to point out to them that Cornish nationalism is far better organised and supported than the Shetland variety, but doesn't appear in the Brit media all the time. The Cornish nationalist party, Mebyon Kernow, is over fifty years old. Shetland doesn't even have a properly organised nationalist movement!

The real reason we hear about Shetland and not Kernow is that Shetland's to try and undermine Scottish independence and oil field claims, whereas the Duchy of Cornwall's mainly a slush fund for the Prince of Wales. Not to help either place.

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Scottish Republican wrote:
the Brit media (nearly wrote merdia there ...)


You'll not mind if I steal this one? Lots of people speak South European languages.

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it locked up its worst bankers for white collar crime instead of supporting them.


I heard. In fact I wish I'd been a fly on the wall:

"No, Mr Banker, we are not taking on your private debt; and by the way, you are under arrest!"

Fantastic!

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Aye if the UK had done the same, it wouldn't be in so much "merdia" and banking jobs could have been saved.

If the Icelanders had taken IMF advice, and austerity, they'd still be up the creek.

Saw an article on this today, will repost. We need to copy our Nordic neighbours not Anglo-American failure.

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http://positivenews.org.uk/2013/economi ... c-miracle/

Iceland was the epicentre of the 2008 financial crisis that rocked the world. Five years on, after letting its banks fail, things are looking different. Ben Whitford investigates

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Vote "No" or else this will be your Government: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ox ... e-25793358

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Amazing that the elderly seem to be so unionist, considering the UK has the worst pensions in Europe - worse than Norway or the RoI. If anyone thinks indy will steal their pension they need to start noticing what the Tories and Lib Dems are doing to the welfare state, NHS and Royal Mail.

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A lot of the historical propaganda pumped out by the Unionist media is aimed at them. They will be able to relate to WW II and will have had personal experience of "National" Service.

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Today I heard more negative propaganda that a Yes canvasser got told while speaking to a Polish voter,who had been told that he would be kicked out of Scotland if we got independence by Salmond and his dictatorship.Is this not the worse fear tactics ever by painting us as bad as the BNP over the border! :ranting:


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