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It certainly provides an explanation as to why Aberdeenshire/Moray/Perthshire as a whole voted NO.
The problem is that secession does not mean socialism, radical leftism or any political philosophy it means not being ruled by Westminster. Not as Nicola says to make a better society but to run ourselves.


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Some of us want indy because Scotland should rule herself AND because we want a better society too.

You can want both... the current system is vile; I know folk who are being victimised by the state for being disabled and others who have had to use foodbanks. We're a rich country dogged by colonial exploitation.

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My greatest disappointment in the campaign was the lack of discussion of cultural matters, but there was some attempt by National Collective and others. Gaidhlig was practically invisible.

I think the Achilles' Heel was the elderly. I mentioned this months before the referendum, and kept on being told about examples of Yes voting pensioners. However, the point is that the Yes campaign did not persuade enough pensioners, and the No campaign basically won the referendum by terrifying the crap out of them. (This despite the fact that UK pensions are lower than that of just about anywhere in Western Europe, including the ROI and Norway.)

I suspect part of the problem is that a significant chunk of pensioners didn't have access to alternative media, and probably didn't look at the internet much for news.

But in terms of age, it is interesting:

* If you were thirty in 1979, then you would be pensionable now. If you were twenty five, you'd not be far off it either. So I think a considerable chunk of yes voters from '79 are still around.
* Many of the SNP voters from the late 1960s and early 1970s will be pensioners and still around.
* The majority of people who voted Yes in 1997, are still around, and a considerable proportion are pensionable.

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Questions need to be answered better next time eg the pound ,Europe ,NATO to name but a few ..saying it's over pound as well didnae work ppl didnae believe it ..

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Questions need to be answered better next time eg the pound ,Europe ,NATO to name but a few ..saying it's over pound as well didnae work ppl didnae believe it ..


I think the Yes campaign wss led by the nose on the piund and plan B.

The pound sterling, our own currency and the Euro wrre all options, but retaining yhe Bank of England would still place us jn a state of dependency.

Once one veers OFF economics, unionists are lost since they are essentially materialists.

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